HGTV has ruined real estate.

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10/15/2014 at 20:21 • Filed to: None

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This should probably be in Cigar lounge, if only I had publishing rights (hint hint)

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As a car nut, my dream is to loan own (great term I read the other day) a garage. In my area there are three types of homes

1) Mill homes close to town: cheap and crammed on top of each other. Chance of a garage. Snowballs chance in hell.

2) Suburban homes. 50% have a garage and here's my problem. It seems like HGTV has been able to convince every person that they need to update your kitchen. The agent that was touring me. "They finished the renovations 1 1/2 years ago, spending over 40k on the kitchen! Here are the before and after photos. It was right out the 80's"

me:"I really don't care what they spent. I just want a functional kitchen. I don't care if it's dated" It's like reading car ads "Over $20k in receipts and work", yeah that kinda sucks, because your car is still only worth $15k.

3) McMansions laughably out my budget. Chance of garage; 100%

My ultimate goal is to find the elusive decent suburban home that hasn't fallen under the control of HGTV Something like a 1.5 from my list above. Maybe I should just take the money I would spend on the down payment and get another car. Oh that's right I have no place to put it!

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My dream..

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Maybe I should just buy this kit.

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DISCUSSION (46)


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:07

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Authorship to CL granted, story already cross posted.

We bought a new construction home about a year and a half ago. My wife was excited about getting the options that she wanted. After it all, we both agree that building a home is highly overrated.

I hope they didn't expect you to pay an extra $40k for those renovations!! A nice kitchen might increase the price of the home by a few thousand, but not much else.


Kinja'd!!! Leadbull > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:07

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I watched House Hunters once, and a couple purchased a home because their dog supposedly loved the backyard.

Your new mortgage is twice your dog's lifespan. But congrats.


Kinja'd!!! Tohru > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:10

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Get an empty lot and put the kit on it. It's really reasonably priced for what you get.

Otherwise, search for houses in foreclosure.

My house (in a 600 person town in Wisconsin) was $35k. 900 sq. ft., an okay deck, and a 1 car "garage".

The garage fits most normal cars fine, but I prefer big American vehicles when I can get them. The garage is like a sweater for a Caprice, and an '86 Chevy C10 won't even fit.

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Kinja'd!!! ly2v8-Brian > Leadbull
10/15/2014 at 21:20

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That show makes me like people less.


Kinja'd!!! Stupidru > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:21

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I thought about buying a lot and building a giant garage and living above it, but all of the sudden I got married and my now-wife put the kiabash on that. We ended up finding the house that both of us absolutely wanted. I got a GIANT 2.5 car garage with an upstairs for a man cave / storage, and she got the updated house. We're in the location we always dreamt about and kept it inside our budget by $100.

Moral of the story: anything is possible if you wait. It took us 2 years, but we finally got our dream house.


Kinja'd!!! ly2v8-Brian > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:22

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Buy land on the outskirts of the outer suburbs. Build small house. Build pole barn for cars/workshop.

Obviously profit.


Kinja'd!!! Noah - Now with more boost. > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:22

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UM I think I need this kit... looks like bachelor pad heaven to me. Now onto that whole graduating/finding a real job thing...


Kinja'd!!! Jagvar > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:23

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What if the kitchen has a Rolls-Royce bar in it? Would that be a selling factor?


Kinja'd!!! Stupidru > Leadbull
10/15/2014 at 21:23

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We bought a house because it had a yard for our dog to poop in. The dog poops AND pees in it, so we're happy.


Kinja'd!!! Leadbull > Tohru
10/15/2014 at 21:24

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Don't go to the basement; I've heard he stashes kidneys down there.


Kinja'd!!! Leadbull > Stupidru
10/15/2014 at 21:27

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That's understandable.

But all three homes had fenced in yards, IIRC.

But the dog apparently liked one better than the others.

So they took out a mortgage based on their domesticated animal's recommendation.


Kinja'd!!! Tohru > Leadbull
10/15/2014 at 21:28

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I also have a set of Direzza's down there.


Kinja'd!!! Leadbull > Tohru
10/15/2014 at 21:30

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The horror!


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > PatBateman
10/15/2014 at 21:37

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Thanks for the cross post and authorship.

It wasn't just the kitchen, most of the house was remodeled, that was just what she had photos of. It's more of the mentality " "let's customize it to what I want and then try and get someone else to buy it". They weren't asking for all of it back, but close to it compared to what they paid for the property 8 years before.


Kinja'd!!! Tohru > Leadbull
10/15/2014 at 21:37

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Also a bunch of Celica ST parts (3 guesses who those belong to), beat-up chrome 19" wheels in 5x4.5 and +35 offset (only 2 guesses this time), and some of my home remodeling supplies.


Kinja'd!!! Jcarr > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:39

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Try to find a house that is in excellent structural shape, but needs quite a bit of updating. My wife and I bought our second house last year and that's exactly what we set out to do. We wanted to buy a home we'd be in long-term so that meant it needed space for our family it grow, but we didn't want to spend a ton of money.

We ended up buying a 3000 square foot house that had been owned by the same couple for 48 years. They maintained it very well, but really didn't update it much so it's very 60s on the inside.

It works out great for us because the outdated-ness means we got a ton of space for not a ton of money.


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Jagvar
10/15/2014 at 21:39

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Throw in the matching V-8 coffee table and you got yourself a sucker.


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:40

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Clay Walker has his beach house in Galveston for sale. It's well over a million bucks. On the wooden back deck, there's a big ass "W" built into the planks. When I saw that, I wondered, "If I buy this place, can I get money back to demo that and make it uniform?" Upgrading a house within reason is one thing. Personalizing it out the ass and expecting someone to pay top dollar for something that they don't want nor need is another.


Kinja'd!!! Leadbull > Tohru
10/15/2014 at 21:44

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1. The Celica parts belong to someone who presumably owns a Celica

2. The wheels belong to a human being


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > ly2v8-Brian
10/15/2014 at 21:46

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That is starting to look awfully tempting.


Kinja'd!!! ly2v8-Brian > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 21:48

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That's what I want to do.


Kinja'd!!! Stupidru > Leadbull
10/15/2014 at 21:54

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That's absolutely the stupidest thing I've ever heard of


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Leadbull
10/15/2014 at 22:08

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My Mom has it perpetually on. I do love when they take the first time home buyers take their list of wanted options, show them the house with all the bells and whistles and go ... 1.2mil.

I think the dumbest couple I watched were in their early 30s, still with student debt and trying to buy a house with less than 5% down payment. The host kept trying to talk them out of the house they chose, or get them to sell some toys/stuff, paraphrasing "you realize you're going to be paying out the ass for this". Why would a person want to go on TV and show everybody that they are a financial moron.


Kinja'd!!! Deal Killer - Powered by Focus > Stupidru
10/15/2014 at 22:11

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Your wife appears to be the smart one when it comes to high dollar purchases. I can't tell you how many properties I've walked through, with the giant outbuilding/man cave, that add only a small % of what it cost to build. Guys just love building the 40' x 60' pole barn, with all the bells & whistles, then stomp in furious anger when the $50K it cost to build it adds about $15K when it comes time to sell. I've been appraising Real Estate for 15 years, I've seen it all.


Kinja'd!!! Corey > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 22:12

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I would go for this: http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=310…

But I have drinking buddies and no wife. That makes decision making much easier.


Kinja'd!!! Tohru > Leadbull
10/15/2014 at 22:14

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1 & 2 - they belong to my roommate.


Kinja'd!!! I'll take 911 RS for $5000 > Tohru
10/15/2014 at 22:28

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Where in Wisconsin? I'll be moving up there next summer, and may try to push for a house if I can find one slightly larger than that for less than $100k.


Kinja'd!!! shop-teacher > Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
10/15/2014 at 22:52

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Yes, it is much cheaper to buy a garage/barn than it is to build it.


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > Stupidru
10/15/2014 at 22:58

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Man Cave? Tandem garage? Rat bastard.


Kinja'd!!! shop-teacher > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/15/2014 at 22:58

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I can't tell you how many versions of garages/barns with apartments above them I've designed and drawn over the years. Dozens and dozens.


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > Jcarr
10/15/2014 at 23:00

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Shag carpet?! I LOVE shag carpet!!

Seriously, I love shag carpet.


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > Corey
10/15/2014 at 23:01

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That is actually quite pimp. Slap some stucco on that bitch and call it a custom Mediterranean.


Kinja'd!!! Jcarr > PatBateman
10/15/2014 at 23:22

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Haha, 3 of the bedrooms had that. One bright blue, one puke green, and one red/orange. The beautiful thing about it was there was fantastic oak underneath. The house was built in 1959 and they'd had carpet ever since. The bad thing was that it was glued down and they had troweled the glue corner to corner.

I spent quite a few hours scraping pad up, stripping glue, sanding, staining, and finishing, but I basically have brand new oak floors for a few hundred bucks and a lot of elbow grease.

Before:

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Kinja'd!!! Tohru > I'll take 911 RS for $5000
10/15/2014 at 23:43

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Marquette County - 465 sq. mi. of rural farm country. We have one stop light in the whole county, it was put in 15 years ago and was the headline story in the weekly newspaper.

It's about an hour north of Madison, half-hour from the Wisconsin Dells, and 85 miles from Road America.


Kinja'd!!! I'll take 911 RS for $5000 > Tohru
10/16/2014 at 00:19

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Sounds lovely. I think I drove though that area a bit this summer, going from Madison to Devil's Lake.

I'll probably be in downtown Madison for a year or so (not entirely my choice, but I don't object too much) before moving into Verona or thereabouts.


Kinja'd!!! ly2v8-Brian > Jcarr
10/16/2014 at 00:33

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It's a beautiful floor. Worth the effort.


Kinja'd!!! ly2v8-Brian > PatBateman
10/16/2014 at 00:35

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You have a way with words.


Kinja'd!!! Tohru > I'll take 911 RS for $5000
10/16/2014 at 01:47

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Epic Systems?


Kinja'd!!! Jcarr > ly2v8-Brian
10/16/2014 at 08:52

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Thanks!


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > ly2v8-Brian
10/16/2014 at 08:54

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Thank you. It's a gift.

Bitch.


Kinja'd!!! PatBateman > Jcarr
10/16/2014 at 08:55

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Dat wood...


Kinja'd!!! Stupidru > Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
10/16/2014 at 09:08

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My wife knows little/nothing about finance, but she definitely is the smarter one with our money.

As far as the garage goes, the upstairs currently isn't being used although maybe in a few years I'll do something with it, but at least the space is available if we do decide to make it liveable


Kinja'd!!! Stupidru > PatBateman
10/16/2014 at 09:11

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Currently no man cave, but the space is available to make one. The best part about the garage is that it's 2.5 cars wide but I could also fit 2 cars deep if I ripped out my wall storage. I'm not willing to give up my storage, but at least there's room to keep another dedicated seasonal vehicle (or autocross!) perpendicular to our daily drivers


Kinja'd!!! ly2v8-Brian > PatBateman
10/16/2014 at 09:25

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Elegant as Fuck.


Kinja'd!!! I'll take 911 RS for $5000 > Tohru
10/16/2014 at 11:23

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Mhmm


Kinja'd!!! Tohru > I'll take 911 RS for $5000
10/16/2014 at 11:28

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I used to work construction - I was part of the computer network cabling crew for the Learning Campus there. http://www.gctech.us/projects/epic-…

It seemed like a pretty nice place to work, but since I don't have a bachelor's degree there's no way I'd get in there.

From what I've heard, Epic makes enough money that every building on the Verona campus is paid for in full before construction begins.

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